John Kerry is an ignorant elitist who cares for noone but himself. Don't let him fool you. I will never support him.
Posted by DJ (Member # 1698) on :
Not any Kerry fans at my house!
Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
I love politics....Were gonna go from one ELITIST to another...Joy Joy......It's all about dem bones$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Lets see where all stands after the Republican convention....I think this election is going to be closer than people think....
My two cents.......
Posted by fanatic66 (Member # 991) on :
Sasha, neither candidate is perfect. For me, it just comes down to the lesser of two evils, which is Bush, in my opinion. I see the improved economy & the low unemployment rate & I have to wonder what will happen if Kerry gets in there & raises taxes like he says he will. Surely, that is not the right thing to do. If you look back over the past four years, you'll see that, overall, Bush has led this country in the right direction. However, liberals will never admit to this because they are so hung up on the war, that they are blind to everything else. Hippy logic. That's what it is. Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
quote: liberals will never admit to this because they are so hung up on the war,
I don't think this is just a liberal thing anymore...The war in Iraq is starting to really trouble lots of people..Afghanistan was very clear to me...payback for 9/11. But Iraq...(pre-emptive strike.To seek out WMDs and pre-vent further attacks on US soil) Huh?...That's why I think the republicans better have a steller convention.I think people are ready for a change..I'm not into my taxes being raised or more goverment stuffed down my throat, I hate entitlements(huge democratic platform).You feed the problem the problem gets worse...God I hate entitlements..thats for another thread.Sorry.......LOL
The Republicans better not pull a Clinton ..Bush and his boys better look us in the face and tell the truth...No bullshit!!!!....TRUTH......Dont LIE!!!!!!!!We are not stupid people out here!!!!!
What scares me about this war on terrorism is..Where does it end?..And what country will Bush and the Hawks go into next if elected to four more years.....Iran? Korea? China? People arent digging on this idea very much..... (People in General..Conservatives, Liberals.Christian, Catholic.Muslim...budist....lol.on and on )
Iraq is no doubt in my mind a better place with what we did....But where are the WMDs and where the heck is Osama Binladen????.tell the frigin truth.....Please.. More so. I understand and believe the war on terror must continue..In some form....We cant be attacked like 9/11...Again
People have to be asking themselves these questions??? This isnt about Conservative or Liberal...these are wild scary times we live in...
What an intresting election year.. Dont you think??????
My 2 cents
Posted by feet-e-zine (Member # 1966) on :
On September 20th, 2001 the President of the United States delivered an address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
Here are some important quotes from this address:
"On September the 11th, enemies of freedom committed an act of war against our country. Americans have known wars -- but for the past 136 years, they have been wars on foreign soil, except for one Sunday in 1941. Americans have known the casualties of war -- but not at the center of a great city on a peaceful morning. Americans have known surprise attacks -- but never before on thousands of civilians. All of this was brought upon us in a single day -- and night fell on a different world, a world where freedom itself is under attack."
Later in the address the President said the following:
"Our response involves far more than instant retaliation and isolated strikes. Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. It may include dramatic strikes, visible on TV, and covert operations, secret even in success. We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest. And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."
I believe the following:
Iraq was engaged in global terrorism. How do I know this? I do not have access to all of the intelligence, however, I do know that Saddam paid the equvilant of $25,000 cash to every Palestine sucide bombers family. To me, this deomonstrates a "global" reach, and support for an avowed terrorist organization and therefore is a legitimate target.
The President also said the following:
" I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It's practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. (Applause.) The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them. (Applause.)
Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated. (Applause.)
Americans are asking, why do they hate us? They hate what we see right here in this chamber -- a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms -- our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.
They want to overthrow existing governments in many Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan. They want to drive Israel out of the Middle East. They want to drive Christians and Jews out of vast regions of Asia and Africa.
These terrorists kill not merely to end lives, but to disrupt and end a way of life. With every atrocity, they hope that America grows fearful, retreating from the world and forsaking our friends. They stand against us, because we stand in their way.
We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions -- by abandoning every value except the will to power -- they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way, to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies. (Applause.) "
Question:
Should the Islamic Facists...the extreme and Islamic fundamentalist Mullahs who currently rule Iran be permited to aquire the "bomb"?
It is estimate that they are close...very close..thanks in part to Dr Khan...the scientist who helped Packistan develope the bomb.
The first book of Winston Churchill's epic history of World War II is entitled:
"The Gathering Storm"
In the nuclear age...can America afford to wait...
Can this nation..or any nation absorb a first strike nuclear blast and prevail?
Sept the 11th was a watershed event..unlike any this nation has ever witnessed...
Pre-emption is the only viable course...
And I would hasten to add that in addition to being bombed with our own planes, we were also attacked with anthrax...
This election is important because it will permit us all to debate these very important questions and to evaluate each candidate to determine if they understand the dangers and will respond appropriately.
The global war on terrorism is far more than just Osma...
I was not impressed with the response of the prior Administration:
After the boming at Kobar Towers in Saudia Arabia...nothing...
The bombing at the Trade Center...nothing...
The bombing of our embassies in Africa..nothing
The bombing of the USS Cole...nothing...
The corrupt food for oil program at the UN...nothing...
The Chinese have an ancient curse:
"May you live in exciting times"
Well..we certianlly live in exciting times...
Posted by comte (Member # 1354) on :
"John Kerry is an ignorant elitist who cares for noone but himself."
Hrmm... an ignorant elitist who cares for no one but himself... reminds me very, VERY much of a couple of OTHER guys I've seen a lot of lately... George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
"I'm not into my taxes being raised" - Sasha, unless your yearly income is over $200,000, John Kerry isn't into raising your taxes, either.
"My economic plan cuts middle-class taxes by three times as much as George Bush. My plan makes it easier for millions of families to pay for health care, and gives families a tax credit on up to $4,000 in college tuition. Under my plan, 98% of Americans and 99% of American businesses will get a tax cut." - John Kerry
It's really sad to think of just how successful republicans have been to get middle-class people to vote against their own economic interests while further deepening the coffers of the very wealthy.
- Which brings me back to Fanatic66's quote about Kerry being an "elitist". Apparently, some are under the impression that GeeDubya's a good 'ol fighter for the lil guy. I, on the other hand, am not so sure. While addressing an audience at an $800 dollar a plate fund-raiser, Bush quipped, "This is an impressive crowd. The haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."
Well-said, George.
Come November, it will be interesting to see if people finally wake up and vote for people who are actually looking out for THEIR interests.
Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
quote: I'm not into my taxes being raised
Comte..This was a general statment...I didnt mean me.
Posted by fanatic66 (Member # 991) on :
John Kerry is a puss. He's the type to run back home to his mommy every time something happens. He comes accross as a guy who can't think for himself. I have not heard any original ideas from him. All he tries to do is tell people what they want to hear, & judging from some of the coments on this forum, it's working. He's also way to absorbed in all of this P.C. crap (hippy logic) that has plagued our country for so long now. Out of all the democrats that could've been nominated to run for president, why the fake John Kerry? At least the others seemed sincere. In my opinion, this election is not about the best man for the job, but about how many people can be fooled. For the record, I do not think either man is the "best man" for the job. I just believe that Bush is the lesser of two evils. At least Bush stands up for what he believes in.
Posted by Lars (Member # 1461) on :
You actually believe Michael Moore? Sad.
Posted by Lars (Member # 1461) on :
No . Im not a fan of Michael Moore at all .But I believe in what I see http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=126 I live in Denmark but I have family in the US. Im not an anti-american I really love your beautiful country but I just think your non-electid President is a idiot . Thats all
Posted by WAKI1 (Member # 2383) on :
I'm a hard core GWB fan.
My job is major league skewed towards the side that hang their dick on the chopping block for us out in disneyworld. Most are not comfortable with hearing the decisions that are made to survive or manage costs during conflicts.
I have ate more dirt and drank more water on other lands that I am qualified and know when and when I do not feel comfortable.
To accomplish a mission, all the boys have to have a sharp edge without any political bullshit in the air or in their head. I'd be the first to pprematurely push a fellow brother out with his chute in oder to clear the bullshit out of his head so thet he can concentrait and help keep us alive.
Kerry Scares me besides he looks like Horse. His long horse head may not be able to fit on most standard picture frames. It's hard to take serious a guy president that looks like Mr. Ed and is wishy washy.
Besides do any of you know the cost to maintain horse teeth? Kerrys running mate VP is a pretty boy, no experience, his balls made of plastic no brass. We need brass balls to take over the president spot in the case of a absence.
But the flip-side is Pretty Boys Mom I heard can eat some nails if need be, and she cooks up collard greens and Ocra like nobodys business. So until his mom makes his dcisions for him we won't really know what she's capable of. Kerry should have aquired a running mate with brass balls. Or his mom with carbon composite overys.
Our Leader GWB he's a no fear no second guessing and no bull shit type of guy. I feel proud to get it done for the man. He's a powerhouse and can rock the house whenever he desires. Ya gotta love a decesion maker like him. Besides that I like the idea my boss is a texan and wears boots like a man.
Cheney has had a distinguished career as a businessman and public servant, serving four Presidents and as an elected official. This ole boy i a back bone to GWB and has helped him cut his teeth. I would feel very secure with Cheney running the show if something happened to GWB.
I have served many conflicts both acknowledged and not acknowledged. I know when my edge is easy to get sharp and when it takes me a little longer to sharpen my edge. I feel a heck of allot more comfortable with the Republicans in the house. My edge is always on standby razor sharp for these ole boys.
My resume includes:
US Libya Conflict 1985 Operation Earnest Will 1987 US Invasion of Panama 1989 Operation Desert Storm 1991 Somalia 1993 Operation Deliberate Force in Bosnia 1995 Desert Fox Campaign 1998 Kosovo 1999 No-Fly Zone War 2000 Afghanistan Operation Enduring Freedom 2001 Operation Iraqi Freedom 2003 Have also done some 1 mission quickies in a good handful thats not documented. These are much more intense then the larger dances. When you go to some other guys land for a 1 night date there are not many other couples to work with. Has to be a very incestious relationship for this first and last date.
Keep our boys alive and create a free and safe world. Vote GWB all the way baby!
Posted by gs3647 (Member # 2418) on :
I'm not a huge Michael Moore fan, but I'm definitely no Republican. Kerry wouldn't be my first pick, but Bush hasn't gotten my vote at all. I think Kerry deserves a chance, and if he can make things better, who knows what words if any will come out of the Republicans.
Posted by Lord (Member # 2465) on :
Not everyone will agree with this and thats fine its your right. We all have opinions and we'll never agree on everything not even the prettiest part of the foot or if toes look better shorter or smaller or the same size. But thats exactly what thier counting on. At this point let me say that I believe this country is the greatest country ever concieved on this earth and I wouldnt want to live any where else but They have us convinced in this country that its a republican democrat thing. A Liberal conservative thing a christian muslim thing. All these things keep us divided and totaly missing the point. Its a rich poor thing. All the republicans and the democrats care about is keeping thier power. We have become an aristocracy The politicians are the royalty and the rest of us are the peasants. The republicans and the democrats run hand in hand with out one there wouldnt be another. They hand us two pieces of shit and say pick one. And here we are aurguing about which piece we want. I was talking to my aunt about this very thing the other day. She is an italian citizen my uncle married her while he was stationed over there and they decided to stay in italy when he retired. But she asked why we put up with. I explained to her that this is truly the land of oppertunity and anyone who isnt just a total bum barring disease or mental disorders can carve out a pretty good niche for himself in some cases even ascend to the top. Were content we have airconditioning, cable, Mcdonalds, automobiles, grocery stores, convient stores, video games, online porn, and running water. The majority of citizens in this country live like kings compared to most of the rest of the world and whether they will admit it or not thats why they hate us. Theres not a single person on this board that doesnt know our governments corrupt but what are we doing about it? Nothing. why would we? Our government is fat and bloated spends way too much money robs us blind but yet we can still sit back and have a great life. Whats the point in ruining that. Im sure not going to. lifes to short to be putting your kneck out and its just to hard to make change. You know kinda changing the subject but my grandfather all ways said be weary of a man who spends 50,000,000. to get a job making 250,000.
The views expressed in this article are not nessecarily the views of the author or the board it is posted on. Just trying to provoke some thought and let my presence be known LOL. Chew on this for a while and let me know what you think I might agree with you. Posted by 187 (Member # 2073) on :
I refuse to rest my faith in a leader who slaughters the English language almost every time he speaks. And it's not just little mistakes...it's the entire sythesis of new words such as "strategery" that get me every time.
Posted by mystik (Member # 1420) on :
Sorry...but im in the middle class. It's wonderful how in this Republican-run government of ours the rich get richer and everyone else just kinda sits there and is force fed bullshit about how this makes the economy better.
P.S. Dont be surprised if Bin Laden is "captured" sometime around.....September.
Posted by Lord (Member # 2465) on :
The rich always get richer. Im sorry do more poor people get rich when the democrats run the show. Dont think so. Thats my point. Its not a democrat republican thing its a rich poor thing. They want us to think its a republican democrat thing but its not. As long as we focus on reblicans and democrats we wont focus on the fact that they all suck. All they care about is keeping the money and the power not us.
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lord: The rich always get richer. Im sorry do more poor people get rich when the democrats run the show. Dont think so. Thats my point. Its not a democrat republican thing its a rich poor thing. They want us to think its a republican democrat thing but its not. As long as we focus on reblicans and democrats we wont focus on the fact that they all suck. All they care about is keeping the money and the power not us.
Amen.
Posted by fanatic66 (Member # 991) on :
I urge all of you Kerry supporters out there to go get a copy of the book "Unfit for command", & see what you think of him then. That is, if you can find the book. They are selling out faster than they can be printed. It's already #1 on the NY Times best seller list, which leads me to believe that people are finally starting to wise up about the fake John Kerry. By the way, George Bush has nothing to do with this book. The author served with Kerry in vietnam.
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