It has come to my attention that the vast majority of all content on Wu's is professionally done, and there seems to be a real lack of good old amateur stuff. I don't know about you, but I very much prefer it when amateur girls (i.e. random girls in public) are asked to show their feet for photos. I know people such as Cali Beach Feet are professional, but the girls he uses are all amateur which is what I like. What are your opinions on this?
Joe.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
Yeah. Most of the time, amateur outdoes professional.
NorCal and Cali Foot Exchange are good with this. ...I think CoedFeet would also count as amateur, since as far as I know those girls are not professional models.
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rider Aldebaran: Yeah. Most of the time, amateur outdoes professional.
NorCal and Cali Foot Exchange are good with this. ...I think CoedFeet would also count as amateur, since as far as I know those girls are not professional models.
Yeah and don't forget old J.R. from Collegefeetarchive.com either. The 3 you mentioned as well as CaliBeach all have live (random) and amatuer models as well as paid professionals on their sites. All are worth the money for a membership IMO... Posted by babeflover (Member # 2953) on :
Finally someone says it. too much pro contest here. wives, girlfriends, and friends stuff is so much sexier. Nothing sexier than a woman that just want to show her loveliness just because he feels sexy.
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
quote:Originally posted by Holiday Girls Feet: Greetings fellow foot fetishists,
It has come to my attention that the vast majority of all content on Wu's is professionally done, and there seems to be a real lack of good old amateur stuff. I don't know about you, but I very much prefer it when amateur girls (i.e. random girls in public) are asked to show their feet for photos. I know people such as Cali Beach Feet are professional, but the girls he uses are all amateur which is what I like. What are your opinions on this?
Joe.
Joe, this concept cannot be beat! I have seen real life foot troopers like Feet n Soul, CBF, Murray from EverydayFeet, CollegeFeet, coedfeet, and Cali Feet Exchange. These are the true life blood representatives of approaching real life models on the spot. They are the top.
The type of shoots where other photographers pre-arrange their meetups just pales in comparison. Not only that, but the repetitive scenery becomes humdrum.
I really like the down home feel of the top stalwarts I mentioned who've done it right for years. Many imitators have come along since then and tried to fool the average surfer, but we are no fools. We have a fetish, not downs syndrome, and while I applaud the efforts of the many wannabes, I hope I can offer solid advice which will only help them in the future:
"Imitators, please try to find your own schtick which will make you special and unique in your own way." Each of the hall of famers who I mentioned have done a magnificent job of providing great unscripted entertainment in a way that is tied to their own themes. We need this kind of inventive and creative attitude to ring in the next generation of future real life foot troopers. Best of luck to all who will try and all who have failed, but will try again!
[ March 09, 2013, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
Posted by Lordsoysauce (Member # 2193) on :
I've always enjoyed amateur models, but less on the candid level and more in-between. Especially those who you can tell are genuine and are in it for the fun. While I do realize that every model is different, it's very easy to tell who's in it for the fun, and who's just in it for the money. And professional models usually fall into the latter.
Sometimes, I just want to enjoy an amateur model who's having a good time with it and wants the world to see her feet. And there's just not enough of those around these days.
Posted by jamaicanfeet (Member # 16678) on :
Sometimes a lot of the amateur content get very few responses or comments which doesn't really encourage the poster to post again.
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lordsoysauce: I've always enjoyed amateur models, but less on the candid level and more in-between. Especially those who you can tell are genuine and are in it for the fun. While I do realize that every model is different, it's very easy to tell who's in it for the fun, and who's just in it for the money. And professional models usually fall into the latter.
Sometimes, I just want to enjoy an amateur model who's having a good time with it and wants the world to see her feet. And there's just not enough of those around these days.
Yes absolutely agree on alot of "professional" ( and I use that term loosely) when I am describing some women who call themselves that I've worked with. They are usually in it for the money and most of the time the few select ones I have shot who are in this category were referred to me by another photographer when they had a group shoot set up for that girl when she was in town shooting.
Most of my models are amatuers looking to gain some fame or recognition so that they can use it as a stepping stone to something else like acting or bigger and better projects. Some are happy to do it for free, some I offer some extra cash for their time and gas...and the "professional" ones I shoot about once per year just to contribute to the community. Either way, pretty much 99.9% of my models in particular enjoyed baring their feet for my camera and truly got turned on by it or were completely nuetral towards it which is great news for Foot Lovers worldwide. Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
I agree
I love amateur content.
Posted by FIASCo (Member # 1899) on :
I'm not sure if there are hard and fast rules for what we refer to as "amateur" here. However, I will say that as a general rule, I prefer "girl next door" photoes to what I call "glitz and glam" style footography, though there are some notable exceptions like Feet Fair. [sic]
The Foot Punkz brand is one example of what I mean. Technically, it may be a professional site, but the content has a fun, playful, amateur feel to me. And I mean that in the best way possible!
Posted by Iowas foot slave (Member # 28971) on :
quote:Originally posted by jamaicanfeet: Sometimes a lot of the amateur content get very few responses or comments which doesn't really encourage the poster to post again.
This is exactly how I feel. I've posted stuff on here, and on other sites, of my "amateur" content, and it never gets much for comments or reviews so my models give up. If there's no love or appreciation, it's hard to keep interest for them and myself.
Posted by Footsessed (Member # 45603) on :
Definitely agree love amateur, some of the best feet I've seen are in public
Posted by Footsessed (Member # 45603) on :
Definitely agree love amateur, some of the best feet I've seen are in public
Posted by domitilo (Member # 1325) on :
Agreed! This forum needs more amateur posts. Personally, I have made the effort to post many pics of my wifes feet in all sort of situations. Over the years, my posts have declined because of the lack of responses to the effort. No doubt, I enjoy posting pics, sharing my wifes sexy feet with forum members, however, I do like to read comments; some type of interaction in order to become enthusiastic about further posts. Just saying; this is what is needed more feedback. Don't know how to turn it around at this point.
Posted by LeDaemon (Member # 198) on :
Prefer the amateur stuff with everyone doing it for fun too. For me personally whenever we would go out and do the shoots in the different locations cutting up and laughing most of the time is what's going on. You can see the difference in the expressions whether the lady is having fun doing it or if its just "the foot gig" and need the dough so she can get over to "the cosplay furry gig" for her next shoot.
However, I think what makes the forum special is the balance of both the professional and amateur photographers.
Posted by Wu (Member # 1) on :
First let me say that I appreciate everyone that contributes their content (pro or amateur). Though, as FIASCo said, the line can be a bit blurry.
If more "amateur" content is desired then it's time for some of you guys to step up and make that change happen. Take out your cameras and share photos of your wives, girlfriend, and female friends with us (18+). Invite amateurs from around the web to share with us.
Posted by Jay the Footman (Member # 42837) on :
Come check us out.... we have real amateur girls on our page. http://www.clips4sale.com/37512 although it's not any candids or stranger in public, we don't have any professional models, just around the way girls, women I meet in my day to day life. That's http://www.clips4sale.com/37512 Posted by jamaicanfeet (Member # 16678) on :
Everyone says they love amateur content yet when it's given the responses are minimal yet you go googoo gaga over the professional content and praise their posts.
Posted by larrrr (Member # 42092) on :
To me this depends on the model. I enjoy amateur and professional.
Posted by FootBoi88 (Member # 43020) on :
Agreed!
Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
I love both types but am particularly fond of candids, which I used to share on here fairly regularly. However over the last year or two there seemed to be an increasingly hostile attitude (via comments made) towards those of taking and sharing candids- so I stopped.
The feedback was based on the fact that most candids (in my case admittedly all) were taken without the female's permission. I totally understand and respect that so I stopped posting them but this was a rather marked "about face" in collective attitude from even a few years ago when candids were accepted without widespread criticism. Just wanted to give my .02 cents worth.
Posted by screwhead20 (Member # 16242) on :
quote:Originally posted by jamaicanfeet: Sometimes a lot of the amateur content get very few responses or comments which doesn't really encourage the poster to post again.
^^I agree... But I also think that people just have a preferences on what type of feet/photography style that they personally like. Comments do make you feel good about your work but I don't think that the lack of comments should stop a poster from posting what they think is sexy in their own eyes.
Posted by Lordsoysauce (Member # 2193) on :
It also has a lot ot do with quality. Professional sites generally have better photography equipment, which leads to higher quality pictures and therefore more traffic and responses.
Posted by PrincessCy (Member # 16047) on :
Hey guys, My content is totally amateur, I use non professional cameras (canon g12 or sony w70) and most of the times, I shoot myself using a tripod. I never took photos or videos in studios or with professional photographer. cheers, Cynthia
Posted by Daren Luvswrinkles (Member # 43489) on :
By definition, it's not amateur if you're charging people. Amateur says nothing of quality of photos, or equipment.
Posted by PrincessCy (Member # 16047) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daren Luvswrinkles: By definition, it's not amateur if you're charging people. Amateur says nothing of quality of photos, or equipment.
In my language, amateur can mean unprofessional. I don't live with this money or pay my bills with this money, I'm not a professional model and it only pays my costs with the production of the sets (clothes, pedicures, shoes and sometimes travels) and the costs to keep my website running, so I consider myself an amateur.
Posted by dsuave81 (Member # 7315) on :
quote:Originally posted by jamaicanfeet: Sometimes a lot of the amateur content get very few responses or comments which doesn't really encourage the poster to post again.
Exactly posted a pic of my wife last week without a single response .. A professional topic was done after mine that I thought was pretty boring and gets tons of responses ... I am not asking for praise or anything like that but if we are all here for the same reason then the actual members should have more conversation with each others posts rather than the pros .. JMO
Posted by hyperion (Member # 39397) on :
I wonder if the mods would consider a wives/gfs/candids only content page. The stipulation I would suggest is no paysites or clipstores in that section, no vendors. No links to those sites. Keep those in the section they are in now.
Cy, according to the definition above you would be a "vendor" even though you are not a professional model. Just to be clear I LOVE your stuff and it is not my intention to offend or insult. That is not my intent. Nonono. You are universally admired.
Rather, I am making a distinction between someone who post pictures and says, "Here are some samples, there are more you can purchase at my website," (vendor) and someone who says, "Here is a snap of my wife's feet, hope you guys enjoy and I'll try to post more," (amateur).
And then 70 bazillion people complain about how the wife's post doesn't have soles/tops/obscure subfetish pics. And then another 800 bazillion people want to know how they smell and the orignial poster is not a sniffer and the wife who is getting her first slow intro into the footworld reads the posts and gets freaked out and we don't ever see her again.
Wow, I really sold it, huh? Sorry for the off-topic. Bye all,
Posted by PrincessCy (Member # 16047) on :
Don't worry, hyperion, I understood what you mean by vendor (or seller, whatever) and I know you never would offend me Posted by OneLuckyMan (Member # 44123) on :
I agree with the major "complaint" on this thread and hyperion's suggestion.
Posted by Feetosopher (Member # 45909) on :
As a pro footographer I have always worked with "amateur models". To me, "amateur model" means any girl not posing to earn a living. All my models are students and/or or have their own, non-modelling regular jobs. Most of my BAREFOOT URBAN GIRLS pose for me for three reasons (the order of importance varies according to the girl): 1) earning welcome extra money; 2) having great fun; 3) feeling sexy and enjoying the fans' (and the photographer's!!! ) excitement..
All my respect for professional models (some are truly cool & friendly girls, like Cecilia Descalza): yet I could NEVER shoot a girl who is not interested in my projects, who models for the money only, or who would NEVER get her soles dirty and flash her tits & pussy just for the fun of doing it.
Now.. if "amateur content" means BORING COLLECTIONS of CRAPPY LOW-RES PICS of UGLY WIVES (or, even worse, of their feet only), taken with a SHITTY CELLPHONE.. sorry, but this stuff - which PLAGUES THE ENTIRE WORLD WIDE WEB - just makes me BARF!!! Posted by hyperion (Member # 39397) on :
FeetSopher:
By my definition in my earlier post, I would call you a "vendor." And you want to avoid like the plague exactly the kind of stuff some of us would like to see a separate section for. I guess it would be nice to separate them out, huh?
Hey! You got your chocolate in my peanut butter! Ah, you're probably too young to remember that old commercial.
Best wishes,
Posted by Daren Luvswrinkles (Member # 43489) on :
Wu, whether by accident or by design, caters to producers of pro/commercial content, and provides a great vehicle for them to advertize. This naturally attracts viewers who have a preference for that sort of content.
I was pleased to read Feetosopher's honest rant, as I feel he sumes up the mindset of the typical Wu dweller.
Those who loathe " ... BORING COLLECTIONS of CRAPPY LOW-RES PICS of UGLY WIVES (or, even worse, of their feet only), taken with a SHITTY CELLPHONE... stuff - which PLAGUES THE ENTIRE WORLD WIDE WEB" will be happy here.
To go back to the sentiments of the OP, for those who do prefer what FeetoSopher detests, there are other boards out there which cater to this specifically.
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:Originally posted by Feetosopher: As a pro footographer I have always worked with "amateur models". To me, "amateur model" means any girl not posing to earn a living. All my models are students and/or or have their own, non-modelling regular jobs. Most of my BAREFOOT URBAN GIRLS pose for me for three reasons (the order of importance varies according to the girl): 1) earning welcome extra money; 2) having great fun; 3) feeling sexy and enjoying the fans' (and the photographer's!!! ) excitement..
All my respect for professional models (some are truly cool & friendly girls, like Cecilia Descalza): yet I could NEVER shoot a girl who is not interested in my projects, who models for the money only, or who would NEVER get her soles dirty and flash her tits & pussy just for the fun of doing it.
Now.. if "amateur content" means BORING COLLECTIONS of CRAPPY LOW-RES PICS of UGLY WIVES (or, even worse, of their feet only), taken with a SHITTY CELLPHONE.. sorry, but this stuff - which PLAGUES THE ENTIRE WORLD WIDE WEB - just makes me BARF!!!
Well said, and ENTIRELY to the point of Truth. Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:Originally posted by hyperion: FeetSopher:
By my definition in my earlier post, I would call you a "vendor." And you want to avoid like the plague exactly the kind of stuff some of us would like to see a separate section for. I guess it would be nice to separate them out, huh?
Hey! You got your chocolate in my peanut butter! Ah, you're probably too young to remember that old commercial.
Best wishes,
Also good words to the wise, not that necessarily it's "bad" material but yes a separate section for it would be nice so that viewers can go to either section depending on their mood for feet that day. Posted by Feetosopher (Member # 45909) on :
quote:Originally posted by hyperion: FeetSopher:
By my definition in my earlier post, I would call you a "vendor." And you want to avoid like the plague exactly the kind of stuff some of us would like to see a separate section for. I guess it would be nice to separate them out, huh?
Hey! You got your chocolate in my peanut butter! Ah, you're probably too young to remember that old commercial.
Best wishes,
Hi there.. well, I have always been a supplier of pay websites, not a retailer.. but yes, I guess that I am a "vendor", after all.. and I hope it's not a crime!!!
I just expressed my personal opinion about A SPECIFIC TYPE of "amateur content". There are many extremely talented amateur footographers who take high-quality pictures of gorgeous, 100% amateur models.. I have maximum respect for those guys, and I am honored to be friends with some of them!!!
As for having a separate section in the forum dedicated to "amateur content".. it might be a smart idea, but of course the final word will be Wu's.. and I am sure it will be a word of wisdom!!!
Personally I would prefer GENRE-FOCUSED SUB-SECTIONS of the forum: it would be really useful for me if a sub-section of the forum was devoted to dirty feet & barefooting, and another to "non-footjob", classic style barefoot nude photography (oh, Elmer.. I miss you so much!!! ). However, given the extremely high number of niches and sub-niches in modern foot-related photography, I am afraid that such an approach would be impossible to adopt!!!
All the best from Italy!!! P.S. I am 44.. but being Italian, I am afraid that I had no chances of watching that old commercial!!! Posted by Feetosopher (Member # 45909) on :
quote:Originally posted by Daren Luvswrinkles: Wu, whether by accident or by design, caters to producers of pro/commercial content, and provides a great vehicle for them to advertize. This naturally attracts viewers who have a preference for that sort of content.
I was pleased to read Feetosopher's honest rant, as I feel he sumes up the mindset of the typical Wu dweller.
Those who loathe " ... BORING COLLECTIONS of CRAPPY LOW-RES PICS of UGLY WIVES (or, even worse, of their feet only), taken with a SHITTY CELLPHONE... stuff - which PLAGUES THE ENTIRE WORLD WIDE WEB" will be happy here.
To go back to the sentiments of the OP, for those who do prefer what FeetoSopher detests, there are other boards out there which cater to this specifically.
Dear Sir.. I am really relieved to see that there is still someone who shares a certain mindset about foot-related photography!!!
Sadly for me, I come from an era when they still tried to teach you to distinguish quality material from run-of-the-mill stuff and (most important) pure crap.. I have started taking pictures of (amateur!!! ) barefoot girls in the pre-internet era.. if you were a foot fetishist in Italy in the early 90s, and wanted to enjoy hot pics of barefoot girls, you had to save money for weeks, travel to a major city (100+100 miles, in my case), go to one of the few existing porn shops, and buy some issues of LEG SHOW. Being the whole affair quite complicated and expensive, you REALLY had to learn FAST which magazine offered the best value for money!!! Internet undoubtedly made our life easier: just a few clicks, and we have easy and cheap access to quality stuff from all around the world. The drawback (to me at least) is that the combination of cheap digital cameras and social networks has made anybody feeling that he/she is the new Elmer Batters and/or Bettie Page.. and now we are overwhelmed by BILLIONS of OFTEN TERRIBLE foot-related pictures ANYWHERE on internet.. and not necessarily for free!!! I am aware that it may sound weird to some but.. I'll FOREVER prefer spending some bucks to enjoy a tablet of Swiss chocolate.. than enjoying an entire dump truck of cowshit for free!!!
All the best from Italy!!! Posted by Feetosopher (Member # 45909) on :
quote:Originally posted by NorcalfeetStudios:
Well said, and ENTIRELY to the point of Truth.
Many thanks indeed!!! It's a great privilege for me to have my modest views supported by the deus-ex-machina of one of the pay websites which best combines top-class amateur foot talent and top-level glamour photography!!! A VERY LOW BOW FROM ITALY!!! Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote: the deus-ex-machina of one of the pay websites which best combines top-class amateur foot talent and top-level glamour photography!!!
I am humbly honored Posted by Feetosopher (Member # 45909) on :
quote:Originally posted by NorcalfeetStudios:
quote: the deus-ex-machina of one of the pay websites which best combines top-class amateur foot talent and top-level glamour photography!!!
I am humbly honored
The honor is mine!!! Posted by hyperion (Member # 39397) on :
Feetsopher, you are a gentleman indeed. I salute you.
Posted by Feetosopher (Member # 45909) on :
quote:Originally posted by hyperion: Feetsopher, you are a gentleman indeed. I salute you.
Oh well.. whenever people are respectful towards me and my freedom of speech, I am happy to show the same respect towards everybody!!! So many thanks indeed, sir!!!
Please let me take the chance to clarify some points: 1) I would never question the right of anybody to post whichever content he/she likes, wherever he/she likes (in compliance with any rules applying in that place, of course). 2) I am perfectly comfortable with the fact that anybody might find fantastic the very stuff which I find instead heinous, and vice versa!!! 3) I am not so arrogant to teach lessons in footography to anyone here.. also because I operate in very specific niches, which seem to be of marginal interest to most forum members.
Have a great week, best wishes from Italy!!! Posted by ja2854 (Member # 44868) on :
quote:Originally posted by Feetosopher: As a pro footographer I have always worked with "amateur models". To me, "amateur model" means any girl not posing to earn a living. All my models are students and/or or have their own, non-modelling regular jobs. Most of my BAREFOOT URBAN GIRLS pose for me for three reasons (the order of importance varies according to the girl): 1) earning welcome extra money; 2) having great fun; 3) feeling sexy and enjoying the fans' (and the photographer's!!! ) excitement..
All my respect for professional models (some are truly cool & friendly girls, like Cecilia Descalza): yet I could NEVER shoot a girl who is not interested in my projects, who models for the money only, or who would NEVER get her soles dirty and flash her tits & pussy just for the fun of doing it.
Now.. if "amateur content" means BORING COLLECTIONS of CRAPPY LOW-RES PICS of UGLY WIVES (or, even worse, of their feet only), taken with a SHITTY CELLPHONE.. sorry, but this stuff - which PLAGUES THE ENTIRE WORLD WIDE WEB - just makes me BARF!!!
Very true, unfortunately. There have been a few amateur posters with AMAZING wives and girlfriends who post for a few months and then seemingly disappear into thin air. It's like clockwork. The reasons are various but it seems to be a combination of lack of interest and just discomfort with having pictures of themselves " out there". The story from Michelle from Oh My Hose is a prime example and if you want to take a more famous angle at it, Rex Ryan and his wife.
A filtered amateur sub-forum would be cool. I'm almost entirely into wives/girlfriend pics at this point but like the above poster said, most of it is just horrible closeups shot with a cell phone that the girl seemed to be unaware of. I like combinations of body shots, face shots, butt shots, etc.
Posted by JLCupcakes (Member # 45996) on :
I think that it doesn't matter if its a professional foot model, or a amateur foot model! If she is having fun its something great! I mean I have worked for lawyers, and made very good money...but I would still rather do my modeling, and photography any day, because its a passion, with a paycheck! Not just a paycheck!
Posted by OneLuckyMan (Member # 44123) on :
Way back in the beginning of this thread someone mentioned that "amateur" (meaning wives, girlfriends) content got less praise by the masses than "non-amateur" content (I think we've beaten to death the semantical difference between the two). Ja2854 brings up a good point and perhaps the lack of praise given to these submitted pictures led these posters to go elsewhere or decide it's not worth the hassle or risk of exposure (like Mrs. Rex Ryan).
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