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Posted by MistressDaniela (Member # 30929) on :
 
I love having my feet kissed and touched– sometimes it's a sexual turn-on, and sometimes it's just very sensually pleasurable, like a good massage It depends on the guy, the setting, and my mood.I am only looking for truly submissive, intelligent, men who want to truly get to know me, and serve me in any capacity I desire.
web page
 
Posted by slavetofeet (Member # 3072) on :
 
i want to.
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
"I am looking for truly submissive and intelligent men". Misstress Daniela's words.

Don't you actally mean; submissive, intelligent and ready to pay?

"Looking for men who want to get to know ME". Misstress Daniela's words.

Maybe, Misstress Daniela, you should pop in and hang out for a bit, get to know US a little and then offer your services? Just a suggestion.


[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Toetapper (Member # 6473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J.J.:

Maybe, Misstress Daniela, you should pop in and hang out for a bit, get to know US a little and then offer your services? Just a suggestion.


[Roll Eyes]

I have to second that and add that it might be nice for us to get to know Mistress Daniela, as well. Are your intentions honorable, Ma'am?

I'm sure that the invitation is very tempting to some; I often question my inner thoughts and feelings simply to be sure of myself and my motivations. Regardless of how much introspection I do, I can't find a hint of submissive in me. I simply don't take orders but I am very good at entertaining requests.
 
Posted by Fate111 (Member # 2627) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Toetapper:
quote:
Originally posted by J.J.:

Maybe, Misstress Daniela, you should pop in and hang out for a bit, get to know US a little and then offer your services? Just a suggestion.


[Roll Eyes]

I have to second that and add that it might be nice for us to get to know Mistress Daniela, as well. Are your intentions honorable, Ma'am?

I'm sure that the invitation is very tempting to some; I often question my inner thoughts and feelings simply to be sure of myself and my motivations. Regardless of how much introspection I do, I can't find a hint of submissive in me. I simply don't take orders but I am very good at entertaining requests.

Great points, guys! Us feet guys are not walking ATMs. We're not pieces of meat. We have feelings too!

I'm not much for taking orders either when it comes to the whole submissive thing and women's feet. I'd rather lead a woman into the sensual and erotic bliss commonly referred to as "foot worship".

Also, shouldn't this thread be moved to another part of the forum? It sounds like a combination of a personal ad and sales pitch IMO.
 
Posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan (Member # 25128) on :
 
i dont have a lot of money, but you do have very nice feet....
 
Posted by feetrme (Member # 29602) on :
 
im in luv but dont have a lot of money but would def do almost anything for those feet
 
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fate111:


I'm not much for taking orders either when it comes to the whole submissive thing and women's feet. I'd rather lead a woman into the sensual and erotic bliss commonly referred to as "foot worship".

[/QB]

this is why foot guys are looked down on, so many are submissive

a real man isn't submissive to a woman and 99% of women don't want a submissive man, THE MAN SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE MAN

"your place is at my feet"

if that doesn't sound degrading i don't know what is
 
Posted by Mommie Dearest (Member # 18340) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
this is why foot guys are looked down on, so many are submissive

a real man isn't submissive to a woman and 99% of women don't want a submissive man, THE MAN SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE MAN

"your place is at my feet"

if that doesn't sound degrading i don't know what is [/QB]

I agree with you 100% ... though I am a pretty dominant female - I prefer a strong grip and a man who knows what he needs and wants! No whimps please!! [Laugh]
 
Posted by Ophillia (Member # 29787) on :
 
i kinda like a lil give and take. why does one person have to dominate? i have a man strong enough to accepct and love my.....strong personality. He lets me be me but doesn't take any of my shit!
 
Posted by Fate111 (Member # 2627) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
[QUOTE]

a real man isn't submissive to a woman and 99% of women don't want a submissive man, THE MAN SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE MAN

"your place is at my feet"


I totally agree! Most women really don't like submissive men.
 
Posted by perfectpeds (Member # 29295) on :
 
OK MD and Ophillia - I'm definitely with you both on this one.

I think we are all pretty strong women and definitely know what we like, want and are not ones to sit back and wait for things to happen - BUT I agree that I, myself, prefer a man who will take charge a little... make a plan and carry it out. Don't give in to everything I want, I choose --

Grab me around the waist, look deep into my eyes, lips almost touching and then.....


toss me on the bed and suck my toes! [Mmm] LOL
 
Posted by justdaone (Member # 16096) on :
 
Perfect P. [Thumbs Up]
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
Well, looking at all these mighty fine reactions here, I'd say MisstressDaniela might try to vend her wares elsewhere.

Michael P and M.D. I do so agree with you, and any woman who says otherwise is one that needs the money! Ok, statistically there must be exceptions to the rule but I'm sure they don't generally spam message boards with lying ads like this one.
 
Posted by coedfeet (Member # 2738) on :
 
Seriously dude, shut the fuck up. This is Wu's Feet Links , so yeah, anyone wanting to advertise their free or paysite is supposed to come here. Her only mistake was putting it in the wrong forum.
 
Posted by LuckyTeen (Member # 30822) on :
 
No need for that man, I think she just offended a few people by just expecting foot men to be pathetic losers. We aren't.
 
Posted by Mommie Dearest (Member # 18340) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coedfeet:
Seriously dude, shut the fuck up. This is Wu's Feet Links , so yeah, anyone wanting to advertise their free or paysite is supposed to come here. Her only mistake was putting it in the wrong forum.

[Kiss] from me to you Coedfeet ... I do agree with you - she has a nother location to post her "wares" and site [Big Grin]
No one was fair on that point [Smile]
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coedfeet:
Seriously dude, shut the fuck up. This is Wu's Feet Links , so yeah, anyone wanting to advertise their free or paysite is supposed to come here. Her only mistake was putting it in the wrong forum.

Intelligent way of communicating you have. Maybe you're the sort of 'intelligent' guy she's looking for?
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
Whatever, I guess I stand co(ed)rrected.
 
Posted by ClassyFootTease (Member # 29928) on :
 
I'm curious, has anyone in this forum ever actually BEEN in a BDSM relationship? Or have had any actual experience with those who practice it? (ie: going to local munches, play parties, meeting others in person....sorry, I don't really count the online stuff as so much of it is total BS).

Reading some of these posts I get the feeling that people equate someone who chooses to be sexually submissive to being a doormat. And I'm sure there are SOME people out there that have such a fantasy to be treated that way. (So your fetishes for feet are OK but a guy who is sexually submissive isn't? Hmm....yeah, that makes sense.) I've known and met many people in my local BDSM scene who are submissive by choice and are not in the least a doormat. They totally have their shit together, are intelligent and fun people.

Yes, there are always going to be 'online dommes' who pop into a forum and make some "your place is at my feet" comment to illicit reactions (and obviously it has worked). And unfortunately, these type of people give BDSM a bad name. It isn't about calling oneself a 'dominant' and they looking around to treat people as submissives (without their consent).

And as for the comments about only a REAL MAN being dominant---BULLSHIT! Who makes up this "REAL MAN" crap anyway?? In my experience, these types of men are more likely to be arrogant assholes! You know, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a whole SLEW of guys on Wu's who have submissive streaks who won't post a word because they encounter that type of attitude all the time. And that's a shame.

I guess I hoped this place was a little bit more open-minded to people of all persuasions. But perhaps not.

Jessica
 
Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
 
interesting point Jessica. this thread is an intersting read
 
Posted by Ophillia (Member # 29787) on :
 
WOW. Jessica....you have a very valid point there.
 
Posted by justdaone (Member # 16096) on :
 
Yup.
 
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ClassyFootTease:


And as for the comments about only a REAL MAN being dominant---BULLSHIT! Who makes up this "REAL MAN" crap anyway?? In my experience, these types of men are more likely to be arrogant assholes!

an arrogant asshole will always get more and better quality women then a submissive wimp

ps from what i've seen and experienced the women that say they hate arrogance or cockiness almost exclusively date these types of guys, they are always bored by the submissive nice guy

actions speak louder than words [Wink]
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
"Yes, there are always going to be 'online dommes' who pop into a forum and make some "your place is at my feet" comment to illicit reactions (and obviously it has worked). And unfortunately, these type of people give BDSM a bad name. It isn't about calling oneself a 'dominant' and they looking around to treat people as submissives (without their consent)."

Jessica's words.

This was more or less my original point. And what bothers me with that is the fact that it looks like somebody who sincerely wants to meet people to share BDSM experiences but is in fact just an advertisement for a so-called pro.

Now, I've been made to understand that some people here really like this kind of ad so who am I to stand in the way of something beautiful, I'm just saying it ain't my style.

And about the 'Real Men' issue, I have no problem believing that there are a lot of submissive men out there who are by no means whimps, it's just that in my experience there aren't many women who are really dominant unless they are 'pro'. Remember, this is not an accusation, just my conclusion. I think a lot of these women 'play' the domme all day (or night) and when they're at home it's the boyfriend who wears the pants cuz they don't really like submissive men anyway. And never once have I seen a domme in my life that didn't make money with it, I'm not saying it's wrong to make money with what you like but I am saying there's a lot of frauds out there. Anybody can wear a corset and thigh highs but not everybody genuinely knows how to dominate, in my opinion there's a subtle dif.

But yeah, like pointed out to me so very politely, they have a right to put their ads here on the forum but it's just a shame if the ads are so misleading, it makes them ugly and misplaced in my eyes because WU's forum is a place of intimacy and friendship as well as a place for links.

Maybe it's all a matter of taste?
 
Posted by ClassyFootTease (Member # 29928) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J.J.:

And about the 'Real Men' issue, I have no problem believing that there are a lot of submissive men out there who are by no means whimps, it's just that in my experience there aren't many women who are really dominant unless they are 'pro'.[/QB]

Well perhaps that has been your experience, but then I don't know where you are looking. Have you ever been to one of your local BDSM munches?

In general though, yes, dominant females seem to be a small percentage. However, having met many dominant females (and their partners) who were NOT pro dommes, I have to disagree with your assessment of that.


quote:
Originally posted by J.J.: Remember, this is not an accusation, just my conclusion. .[/QB]
Fair enough [Smile]


quote:
Originally posted by J.J.:

I think a lot of these women 'play' the domme all day (or night) and when they're at home it's the boyfriend who wears the pants cuz they don't really like submissive men anyway. [/QB]

And perhaps that's the case for SOME pro-dommes. Perhaps they aren't really dominant at all, but see it as a way to make money and therefore do it for that purpose alone. But then again, there are many other women who chose that profession because they truly do enjoy being dominant and/or are into BDSM play.


quote:
Originally posted by J.J.:And never once have I seen a domme in my life that didn't make money with it, I'm not saying it's wrong to make money with what you like but I am saying there's a lot of frauds out there. Anybody can wear a corset and thigh highs but not everybody genuinely knows how to dominate, in my opinion there's a subtle dif.
[/QB]

I absolutely agree.

Jessica
 
Posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan (Member # 25128) on :
 
and the winner is....

[ June 24, 2008, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: Ninja of the Foot Clan ]
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
Well perhaps that has been your experience, but then I don't know where you are looking. Have you ever been to one of your local BDSM munches?

Jessica's words.

I guess I've lost interest over the years. The time I was really looking because it interested me was the time that I didn't really know what I wanted yet or even who I was. I suppose my fantasy at the time was more because I hadn't yet fully developped myself, I was more looking for a sort of 'loving auntie/mother figure who would own me, make me do anything she wanted and lead me into bliss than I was looking for an actual lover. After having been with a woman who was all that and more for me (was with her for about two years and will never forget the BLISS, she's been so sweet to me) I found I had lost interest in the 'idea'.

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart though, for the 'subculture' that is BDSM, hence my initial reaction. [Wink]
 
Posted by Thatguy101 (Member # 23534) on :
 
ok i just need to give my opinion on this. Im not into BDSM and im normally the dominant one.

but when my girlfriend switches it up and is dominant for a night im fine with it.

it can be very hot. i dont know why anyone would say being submissive would make you less of a man. Thats just fucking stupid.

just had to say that. this topic was kinda bugging me.
 
Posted by Sinnister (Member # 2394) on :
 
I'm the furthest thing from submissive you will ever find. When it's time for feet I grab my wife and take what's rightfully mine...
 
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan:
whoever said the 'real man' comment, LOL, fool.
you must be trying to start a 'man-off', lol, if it includes beer & a fight i might consider it, lol, maybe.

arrogant assholes do seem to get all the girls, he was right there, but they never experience the closeness, bond or the intimacy that an intelligent guy does, in a deep relationship.


man off?

uh no how about just stating the fact that a man being submissive is a major turnoff to 99% of women, you are the fool that wants to think otherwise because you are submissive, whatever helps you sleep better at night [Wink]

and how exactly is an arrogant asshole stupid and not capable of having an intimate relationship? if anything they are more likely to have an intimate and deep relationship for two reasons

1. they have more options than a submissive guy
2. they are secure and confident unlike the majority of submissive men and are more likely to keep a chick's interest for the long haul

you're living in a delusional fantasy world
 
Posted by Toetapper (Member # 6473) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sinnister:
I'm the furthest thing from submissive you will ever find. When it's time for feet I grab my wife and take what's rightfully mine...

Sinnister, you have an ability to crack me up with your terseness.

Though, as I mentioned much earlier, I haven't a hint of submissiveness in me, I still regard sex as a co-operative venture. It's rather like ordering from a menu; the diners get to have that for which they are in the mood. In the bedroom, we are one another's waiter/waitress.

To answer Jessica, a bit, I am well acquainted with the B&D arena. Have actually given seminars, albeit small, on rope-work. Because I live far away from more cosmopolitan areas, I haven't attended the kind of gatherings mentioned. I am strictly a top but nothing happens to my "sub" that is not something to which she agreed and accepted; any surprises I can contrive are within well-established boundaries. The mantra is "Safe, Sane and Consensual."

Once again, a place I could go on but this is a place to discuss a passion for feet and not my indugences in other matters sexual.
 
Posted by pose-lover (Member # 4038) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J.J.:
"I am looking for truly submissive and intelligent men". Misstress Daniela's words.

Don't you actally mean; submissive, intelligent and ready to pay?

I'm not so sure intelligent is a requirement.

Sure, a lot of the women her have sites, and that's cool, but has any women ever signed up here who just enjoyed having her feet not even worshipped but appreciated and not had a site/service to offer? Just curious. [Smile] Maybe I'm too naive.

PL
 
Posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan (Member # 25128) on :
 
lol, no intelligence required, is right.

id say theres loads of girls on here that arent after our money. this just isnt one of them.
 
Posted by Ophillia (Member # 29787) on :
 
yes phose there are women here exactly like that.
 
Posted by sportyruss (Member # 16512) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan:
whoever said the 'real man' comment, LOL, fool.
you must be trying to start a 'man-off', lol, if it includes beer & a fight i might consider it, lol, maybe.

arrogant assholes do seem to get all the girls, he was right there, but they never experience the closeness, bond or the intimacy that an intelligent guy does, in a deep relationship.


man off?

uh no how about just stating the fact that a man being submissive is a major turnoff to 99% of women, you are the fool that wants to think otherwise because you are submissive, whatever helps you sleep better at night [Wink]

and how exactly is an arrogant asshole stupid and not capable of having an intimate relationship? if anything they are more likely to have an intimate and deep relationship for two reasons

1. they have more options than a submissive guy
2. they are secure and confident unlike the majority of submissive men and are more likely to keep a chick's interest for the long haul

you're living in a delusional fantasy world

I think the best sort of guy, is one that can be dominant when he needs to be and submissive when he needs to be. I think most intelligent women would look for a bit of everything in a man, not just the neanderthal approach that you seem to love bragging about. I wonder how many of those 99% of women you quote, actually do like a chauvinistic a-hole like you, or whether the type of girl you go out with can actually spell the word chauvinistic.

I'm afraid it's you that lives in a fantasy world, my friend.
 
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
I'm with Mike on this one. The asshole gets the girl...always has and always will. Girls say they just want a nice guy but when it comes down to it they want a guy that makes the decisions, sexually and in everyday life.
As for the "spamming", I don't like it...not one bit...when you first log on to Wu's you see all the categories of the forum...Website URL's..big white fucking letters, can't miss it.
Mistress Daniela definetly needs more tact in delivering her ad because as it stands that is the definition of spamming...just signing up to a forum and posting your ad in the discussion area.
 
Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
 
"Mistress Daniela definetly needs more tact in delivering her ad because as it stands that is the definition of spamming...just signing up to a forum and posting your ad in the discussion area."
Comment by bluetoelover

Agreed, btl, but aren't there several other 'regulars' who have a BIG advertisement that comes along with every comment they post? I thought that that was supposed to confined one section: I'm not sure, but I'd think those adverts. should be criticized as well.

_fjb_
 
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
Well FJB its one thing to come here and post a bunch and the odd time give a plug to your site but she just signed up and was BAM! buy my stuff
 
Posted by pose-lover (Member # 4038) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ophillia:
yes phose there are women here exactly like that.

Good to hear. I've been signed up for years but I don't check in all the time. In fact, only every so often. Most of the time I see either men or women with sites posting. Great to hear there are some here for the same reason as most guys, to be social.

PL
 
Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
Meanwhile I have to let you all know that I had a wonderful session with Misstress Daniela (after all, she DID say my place is at her feet) and have spontaneously wired over the best part of my savings to her 'gift account'.


Just kidding [Bump]
 
Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
 
It's more than just the "odd time", btl, it's every time, even if the response is as simple as a yes, a no, or gremlin.
I find what Mistress Daniela did way less obtrusive.

_fjb_
 
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
 
Okay people. Here, let me explain things. Being a submissive and being a dominant doesn't mean that you walk around all hours of the day being that. Come on people, use some sense.

Many men who are submissive to women in the bedroom are in charge of businesses, are responsible for running other people all day long, etc. I hear this from dommes themselves. Many of these guys tend to want something a little different and will even pay for it.

I agree that most women want an assertive man, but that doesn't mean a guy can't be that way most of the time and enjoy having a woman who can be that way back.

Nothing in life is 100 percent except the rise in gas prices each week... [Wink]

Patrick
 
Posted by Sole_Solution (Member # 29999) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
Okay people. Here, let me explain things. Being a submissive and being a dominant doesn't mean that you walk around all hours of the day being that. Come on people, use some sense.

Many men who are submissive to women in the bedroom are in charge of businesses, are responsible for running other people all day long, etc. I hear this from dommes themselves. Many of these guys tend to want something a little different and will even pay for it.

I agree that most women want an assertive man, but that doesn't mean a guy can't be that way most of the time and enjoy having a woman who can be that way back.

Nothing in life is 100 percent except the rise in gas prices each week... [Wink]

Patrick

True indeed. A friend of mine is a Dominatrix and her clients include doctors, lawyers, rabbis, as well as guys from all walks of life. The submissive role is often acted out by men who want, for the hour or so that the session is happening, to relinquish the "power" that they have in every day life, as Patrick wrote. For a lot of them, being made to dress up like a French maid or getting a dildo inserted into their booties while wearing a pig mask is therapy.

And although I have been her "Foot slave" since 1999, we've become good friends, and our friendship comes first. I may take the submissive role when I'm on the floor sniffing her Feet, but it certainly doesn't make me a wimp. For me it's role playing. For others, and they are out there, it's a life style. There are people who live the submissive and dominant life styles 24/7.

It all depends on the individual and how they choose to set up the dynamics of their relationships.

And regarding the "assertive man" issue... I would imagine that most Women want an assertive guy. My friend, the Dominatrix, was involved with a boyfriend who liked to be dominated, in particular he liked to be "sissyfied"... She didn't have a problem with that until she realized that he ALWAYS wanted to be "sissyfied." That's not what she wanted in a relationship with her boyfriend. She saw submissive guys all day long as clients, she didn't want one for a boyfriend.

[ June 25, 2008, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: Sole_Solution ]
 
Posted by slimebass (Member # 1409) on :
 
That's very true about a guy maybe being sexually submissive but dominant in other aspects of his life.

And I've known many women who were very submissive sexually but were not that way at all in regular aspects of their life.

Seems to me when people are emotionally there for each other they can usually work out the sexual part.
 
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sportyruss:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan:
whoever said the 'real man' comment, LOL, fool.
you must be trying to start a 'man-off', lol, if it includes beer & a fight i might consider it, lol, maybe.

arrogant assholes do seem to get all the girls, he was right there, but they never experience the closeness, bond or the intimacy that an intelligent guy does, in a deep relationship.


man off?

uh no how about just stating the fact that a man being submissive is a major turnoff to 99% of women, you are the fool that wants to think otherwise because you are submissive, whatever helps you sleep better at night [Wink]

and how exactly is an arrogant asshole stupid and not capable of having an intimate relationship? if anything they are more likely to have an intimate and deep relationship for two reasons

1. they have more options than a submissive guy
2. they are secure and confident unlike the majority of submissive men and are more likely to keep a chick's interest for the long haul

you're living in a delusional fantasy world

I think the best sort of guy, is one that can be dominant when he needs to be and submissive when he needs to be. I think most intelligent women would look for a bit of everything in a man, not just the neanderthal approach that you seem to love bragging about. I wonder how many of those 99% of women you quote, actually do like a chauvinistic a-hole like you, or whether the type of girl you go out with can actually spell the word chauvinistic.

I'm afraid it's you that lives in a fantasy world, my friend.

haha oh brother the truth really hurts doesn't it [Wink]

you clearly are a submissive wimp, only your type would say that a dominant man is a chauvanistic pig or a neanderthal [Roll Eyes]

did you not notice that the women in this thread agreed with me or does this fantasy world that you live in cause you to conveniently miss the posts that say they don't want a "man" like you?
 
Posted by Foot-Clan Ninja (Member # 25128) on :
 
'submissive wimp'
what if that 'submissive wimp' was an mma cage fighter?
i sure as hell wouldnt call him a wimp.

i do believe this sums it up
 
Posted by sportyruss (Member # 16512) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
quote:
Originally posted by sportyruss:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan:
whoever said the 'real man' comment, LOL, fool.
you must be trying to start a 'man-off', lol, if it includes beer & a fight i might consider it, lol, maybe.

arrogant assholes do seem to get all the girls, he was right there, but they never experience the closeness, bond or the intimacy that an intelligent guy does, in a deep relationship.


man off?

uh no how about just stating the fact that a man being submissive is a major turnoff to 99% of women, you are the fool that wants to think otherwise because you are submissive, whatever helps you sleep better at night [Wink]

and how exactly is an arrogant asshole stupid and not capable of having an intimate relationship? if anything they are more likely to have an intimate and deep relationship for two reasons

1. they have more options than a submissive guy
2. they are secure and confident unlike the majority of submissive men and are more likely to keep a chick's interest for the long haul

you're living in a delusional fantasy world

I think the best sort of guy, is one that can be dominant when he needs to be and submissive when he needs to be. I think most intelligent women would look for a bit of everything in a man, not just the neanderthal approach that you seem to love bragging about. I wonder how many of those 99% of women you quote, actually do like a chauvinistic a-hole like you, or whether the type of girl you go out with can actually spell the word chauvinistic.

I'm afraid it's you that lives in a fantasy world, my friend.

haha oh brother the truth really hurts doesn't it [Wink]

you clearly are a submissive wimp, only your type would say that a dominant man is a chauvanistic pig or a neanderthal [Roll Eyes]

did you not notice that the women in this thread agreed with me or does this fantasy world that you live in cause you to conveniently miss the posts that say they don't want a "man" like you?

I hope you feel better now that you've had another rant. You really need to curb that 'dominant' temper of yours.

Oh sorry, I forgot that's attractive to all these women on here. [Roll Eyes] Keep smiling mate.

[ June 26, 2008, 07:56 PM: Message edited by: sportyruss ]
 
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sportyruss:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
quote:
Originally posted by sportyruss:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael P:
quote:
Originally posted by Ninja of the Foot Clan:
whoever said the 'real man' comment, LOL, fool.
you must be trying to start a 'man-off', lol, if it includes beer & a fight i might consider it, lol, maybe.

arrogant assholes do seem to get all the girls, he was right there, but they never experience the closeness, bond or the intimacy that an intelligent guy does, in a deep relationship.


man off?

uh no how about just stating the fact that a man being submissive is a major turnoff to 99% of women, you are the fool that wants to think otherwise because you are submissive, whatever helps you sleep better at night [Wink]

and how exactly is an arrogant asshole stupid and not capable of having an intimate relationship? if anything they are more likely to have an intimate and deep relationship for two reasons

1. they have more options than a submissive guy
2. they are secure and confident unlike the majority of submissive men and are more likely to keep a chick's interest for the long haul

you're living in a delusional fantasy world

I think the best sort of guy, is one that can be dominant when he needs to be and submissive when he needs to be. I think most intelligent women would look for a bit of everything in a man, not just the neanderthal approach that you seem to love bragging about. I wonder how many of those 99% of women you quote, actually do like a chauvinistic a-hole like you, or whether the type of girl you go out with can actually spell the word chauvinistic.

I'm afraid it's you that lives in a fantasy world, my friend.

haha oh brother the truth really hurts doesn't it [Wink]

you clearly are a submissive wimp, only your type would say that a dominant man is a chauvanistic pig or a neanderthal [Roll Eyes]

did you not notice that the women in this thread agreed with me or does this fantasy world that you live in cause you to conveniently miss the posts that say they don't want a "man" like you?

I hope you feel better now that you've had another rant. You really need to curb that 'dominant' temper of yours.

Oh sorry, I forgot that's attractive to all these women on here. [Roll Eyes] Keep smiling mate.

ok not only am i a neanderthal and asshole for speaking the truth, I have a temper too [Laugh]

[ June 26, 2008, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
 
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Foot-Clan Ninja:
'submissive wimp'
what if that 'submissive wimp' was an mma cage fighter?
i sure as hell wouldnt call him a wimp.

i do believe this sums it up

everybody is a cage fighter nowadays

in the late 90's the fad for every wannabe desperate for fame and attention wanted to be a pro wrestler

ever since TUF aired on spike tv every guy that has never taken a simple punch to the nose thinks he can be a cage fighter [Laugh]
 
Posted by Sinnister (Member # 2394) on :
 
Hate to brake up this perfectly good debate but...

I still think being submissive is fruity.

That is all. Carry on.
 
Posted by Lick_toes (Member # 16188) on :
 
my place is at your feet! sexy
 
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
 
Submissive doesn't have to mean wearing pink panties, get spit on, licking dirt off of high heels and getting nothing. I sure as hell don't mind laying down and have a girl sit her little ass on my face and not letting me up until that pussy has drenched me. I find that a submissive position, but hey, if eating a girl out sitting on my face is fruity, I'm game.

Patrick
 
Posted by Thatguy101 (Member # 23534) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
Submissive doesn't have to mean wearing pink panties, get spit on, licking dirt off of high heels and getting nothing. I sure as hell don't mind laying down and have a girl sit her little ass on my face and not letting me up until that pussy has drenched me. I find that a submissive position, but hey, if eating a girl out sitting on my face is fruity, I'm game.

Patrick

Haha I agree 100%. Thats exactly what i meant.
 
Posted by flipfloplick (Member # 21954) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sole_Solution:
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
Okay people. Here, let me explain things. Being a submissive and being a dominant doesn't mean that you walk around all hours of the day being that. Come on people, use some sense.

Many men who are submissive to women in the bedroom are in charge of businesses, are responsible for running other people all day long, etc. I hear this from dommes themselves. Many of these guys tend to want something a little different and will even pay for it.

I agree that most women want an assertive man, but that doesn't mean a guy can't be that way most of the time and enjoy having a woman who can be that way back.

Nothing in life is 100 percent except the rise in gas prices each week... [Wink]

Patrick

True indeed. A friend of mine is a Dominatrix and her clients include doctors, lawyers, rabbis, as well as guys from all walks of life. The submissive role is often acted out by men who want, for the hour or so that the session is happening, to relinquish the "power" that they have in every day life, as Patrick wrote. For a lot of them, being made to dress up like a French maid or getting a dildo inserted into their booties while wearing a pig mask is therapy.

And although I have been her "Foot slave" since 1999, we've become good friends, and our friendship comes first. I may take the submissive role when I'm on the floor sniffing her Feet, but it certainly doesn't make me a wimp. For me it's role playing. For others, and they are out there, it's a life style. There are people who live the submissive and dominant life styles 24/7.

It all depends on the individual and how they choose to set up the dynamics of their relationships.

And regarding the "assertive man" issue... I would imagine that most Women want an assertive guy. My friend, the Dominatrix, was involved with a boyfriend who liked to be dominated, in particular he liked to be "sissyfied"... She didn't have a problem with that until she realized that he ALWAYS wanted to be "sissyfied." That's not what she wanted in a relationship with her boyfriend. She saw submissive guys all day long as clients, she didn't want one for a boyfriend.

for me im well balanced, meaning not a weak wimp or a total control freak. im allaround stronger and more dominant than many of those around me. in bed i spank and act rough, but sometimes after having weeks and weeks of stress running my business, i just want my girlfriend to act like a dominatrix, its really thrilling you should try it. she forces me to kiss her feet and threatens to kick my ass if i dont massage her feet right. she even yells at me "c'mon cum now for me, cum hard now dammit". i feel like a huge load gets taken off of my shoulders once its over. afterward top it off with a massage too.
 
Posted by sportyruss (Member # 16512) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by flipfloplick:
quote:
Originally posted by Sole_Solution:
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
Okay people. Here, let me explain things. Being a submissive and being a dominant doesn't mean that you walk around all hours of the day being that. Come on people, use some sense.

Many men who are submissive to women in the bedroom are in charge of businesses, are responsible for running other people all day long, etc. I hear this from dommes themselves. Many of these guys tend to want something a little different and will even pay for it.

I agree that most women want an assertive man, but that doesn't mean a guy can't be that way most of the time and enjoy having a woman who can be that way back.

Nothing in life is 100 percent except the rise in gas prices each week... [Wink]

Patrick

True indeed. A friend of mine is a Dominatrix and her clients include doctors, lawyers, rabbis, as well as guys from all walks of life. The submissive role is often acted out by men who want, for the hour or so that the session is happening, to relinquish the "power" that they have in every day life, as Patrick wrote. For a lot of them, being made to dress up like a French maid or getting a dildo inserted into their booties while wearing a pig mask is therapy.

And although I have been her "Foot slave" since 1999, we've become good friends, and our friendship comes first. I may take the submissive role when I'm on the floor sniffing her Feet, but it certainly doesn't make me a wimp. For me it's role playing. For others, and they are out there, it's a life style. There are people who live the submissive and dominant life styles 24/7.

It all depends on the individual and how they choose to set up the dynamics of their relationships.

And regarding the "assertive man" issue... I would imagine that most Women want an assertive guy. My friend, the Dominatrix, was involved with a boyfriend who liked to be dominated, in particular he liked to be "sissyfied"... She didn't have a problem with that until she realized that he ALWAYS wanted to be "sissyfied." That's not what she wanted in a relationship with her boyfriend. She saw submissive guys all day long as clients, she didn't want one for a boyfriend.

for me im well balanced, meaning not a weak wimp or a total control freak. im allaround stronger and more dominant than many of those around me. in bed i spank and act rough, but sometimes after having weeks and weeks of stress running my business, i just want my girlfriend to act like a dominatrix, its really thrilling you should try it. she forces me to kiss her feet and threatens to kick my ass if i dont massage her feet right. she even yells at me "c'mon cum now for me, cum hard now dammit". i feel like a huge load gets taken off of my shoulders once its over. afterward top it off with a massage too.
Shhush! Don't say that too loud, otherwise Michael P will be calling you a wimp! [Confused]
 
Posted by Mona (Member # 8351) on :
 
Web Site URLs FTW?
 
Posted by Foot-Clan Ninja (Member # 25128) on :
 
nice to see a glimpse of some feet there mona, thanks, this debate tires me
 


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