Have any of you ever compliment women on their feet? I try to do this whenever I can. Usually, I'll say "You look cute, barefooted," "You've got nice feet," or "Nice toenails," if they're painted.
Posted by You (Member # 2107) on :
not too often lately but yeah, something along those lines
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
not as much now, but i usually just say "nice shoes" and stuff like that. even that gets weird stares Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
I've never yet gotten any negative reaction to my compliments. Mind you, I don't go around town telling girls they have pretty feet!
Posted by octoberbaseball (Member # 20977) on :
I say nice pedicures or ask where they bought the sandal for a nice sole shot.
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
Fellas. What is your goal in complimenting women on thier feet? Is it a conversation starter? It's not a good one if you simply phrase it with nice shoes. Complimenting a woman on a body part initially is a big creepy no no. Oh...and were you looking at her shoes when you said nice shoes? Thats a mistake. Look her in the eyes when you make the comliment and smile a little. Not a toothy smile.A boyish grin type. Then move to another topic. In all honesty if you want to talk about feet with her, tell her she has nice shoes once the convo has started and she feels more comfortable with you. If you come off as not needy by not comlimenting her on everything she does, tossing in "you've got style...I dig your shoes"" I bet you're the type that has a billion shoes in the closet at home" or "those shoes look painful, but they look nice though" will be very well recieved. Even a "are those yor tall girl shoes" said in a playful way to a shorter woman would work. See how the instances mentioned above allow her to respond with more than just "thanks". Complimenting is like using a spice when cooking. It's nessesary to add flavor to the interaction...but too much makes your meal suck.
GQguy
Posted by Camille (Member # 21761) on :
I often compliment my friends or even girls that I don't know. I say that I like their shoes, hosiery, socks, toenails, toe rings, sometimes high arches or toes. I've never said to anyone that I liked her soles yet I haven't noticed anyone thinking that I'm weird Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
GQguy: I agree; good advice.
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Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
GQguy hit it right on the nose. It slips past many but there is so much in what he said.
Heed it wisely foot guys Posted by skooter (Member # 5272) on :
Got to admit, I have never done it. I have always let my girlfriends know that I have a foot thing, but its not something I would say to some random in the street.
Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
quote:Originally posted by Camille: I often compliment my friends or even girls that I don't know. I say that I like their shoes, hosiery, socks, toenails, toe rings, sometimes high arches or toes. I haven't noticed anyone thinking that I'm weird
That's because you're a girl sweetie! Whole different ballgame IMHO. They don't perceive you as a "threat."
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Fellas. What is your goal in complimenting women on thier feet? Is it a conversation starter? It's not a good one if you simply phrase it with nice shoes. Complimenting a woman on a body part initially is a big creepy no no. Oh...and were you looking at her shoes when you said nice shoes? Thats a mistake. Look her in the eyes when you make the comliment and smile a little. Not a toothy smile.A boyish grin type. Then move to another topic. In all honesty if you want to talk about feet with her, tell her she has nice shoes once the convo has started and she feels more comfortable with you. If you come off as not needy by not comlimenting her on everything she does, tossing in "you've got style...I dig your shoes"" I bet you're the type that has a billion shoes in the closet at home" or "those shoes look painful, but they look nice though" will be very well recieved. Even a "are those yor tall girl shoes" said in a playful way to a shorter woman would work. See how the instances mentioned above allow her to respond with more than just "thanks". Complimenting is like using a spice when cooking. It's nessesary to add flavor to the interaction...but too much makes your meal suck.
GQguy
WU make that a sticky please!! That is sage advice GQ.
Posted by 2swift (Member # 16002) on :
I have done this on several occasions, but never her feet specifically. I will compliment her taste and style in shoes, or typically her choice of nail color, too. I give the Wifey pedicures myself, so I am always interested in checking out another's work. I go with GQ's advice and simply use it as a gateway to a conversation. For Me it seems kind of odd to compliment her and leave it at that. So far all of my attempts have been met with success and positive feed back. Just be cool, have confidence and take it easy.
Regards, 2swift
Posted by haydenpanettierefeetslave (Member # 2512) on :
I do compliment women on their feet. They just love it
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Fellas. What is your goal in complimenting women on thier feet?
to.....give a compliment
it's not a conversation starter or anything. if it was, i'd have better conversation with women.
so, to me, it's just a compliment.
Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
quote:Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Fellas. What is your goal in complimenting women on thier feet?
to.....give a compliment
it's not a conversation starter or anything. if it was, i'd have better conversation with women.
so, to me, it's just a compliment.
My thoughts exactly! Like I said, I don't go around town complimenting women on their feet. I only do it when I feel the situation is appropriate.
Posted by Footman9 (Member # 1100) on :
I compliment when I can, but it is really all in timing and the "How." Like GQGuy said, you have to have some flair with your delivery. Being cold and sterile will get you no where fast. Women love colors and cute stuff, so you have to play to that, delivering your compliments in the same fashion will get you some gains. Use flair and some original thought the next time out. Remember timing is everything... line your target up on the cross hairs and take your shot (with some finesse) . GQGuy advice is dead-on it. Good advice, man. Posted by mattu2 (Member # 9895) on :
I'm not huge on complimenting girls I don't know. However one time I did see a girl at a bar with an ankle tattoo peeking out of her sock. I commented on that and long story short I talked her into taking off both her shoe and sock for me so I could get a closer look at it.
Posted by Mighty Mike (Member # 1922) on :
compliments only work if she's already in to you
otherwise you are just another guy that is kissing her ass
i'll tease a girl about her feet before i ever tell her I like her feet
Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
I've complimented a girl's foot tattoo of who I only met that night at a party....courage that I have never had before. That was about two months ago for what its worth.
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mighty Mike: compliments only work if she's already in to you
otherwise you are just another guy that is kissing her ass
i'll tease a girl about her feet before i ever tell her I like her feet
i'd rather be kind then an asshole. if a girl deserves it, i'm not letting it go to waste.
Posted by footntoesmassager (Member # 12132) on :
I only compliment women I know really well, and it usually stems from a conversation THEY brought up about their feet.
If I want to specifically talk about a friend's feet, I'll combine it with another compliment like, "Hey, <woman's name here>, you look good! Great hair, great outfit, oh and you got a pedicure...nice!" It works better for the woman since you're not focusing on her feet, even though that is your real intention.
Posted by RadioactiveToy (Member # 26926) on :
I always do it... I mean, I don't walk to any girl on the street and do it. When I get to know them a bit, I compliment their feet if I get a chance to take a peek at them. I'm direct and I tell them that if I think so.
Posted by Mighty Mike (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:Originally posted by Mighty Mike: compliments only work if she's already in to you
otherwise you are just another guy that is kissing her ass
i'll tease a girl about her feet before i ever tell her I like her feet
i'd rather be kind then an asshole. if a girl deserves it, i'm not letting it go to waste.
who gets laid more?
nice guys or assholes
i'm convinced most chicks like a guy that busts their balls, especially the better looking ones
the ones that don't were probably unpopular with guys growing up so they are more insecure and need a guy to kiss their ass
Posted by d-wreck9 (Member # 19014) on :
so i got busted pretty much drooling at a older women (at least 45) in line the other day to pay my cable bill. she had like bronze-ish red toes and kept pulling her feet out of her sandles and flexing her toes, i almost had a heart attack..., she busted me and grined ever so slightly, being in a different situation, not w/ like 10 people in line , i definatly wouldve said said something, but no i have never complimented a stranger on her feet, i would love to though...im a big pussy...haha..jk
Posted by d-wreck9 (Member # 19014) on :
I was just re-reading my post and im sorry about all the commas. Its kind of annoying. Posted by MC Nolan (Member # 20527) on :
GQGuy indeed has some good advice, but like mentioned previously if the girl isn't into you she'll stop you before you can even mention her feet or shoes.
Posted by Mommie Dearest (Member # 18340) on :
I have no fear ... but of course I am a girl (like Camille). I do tell other women that their feet, shoes and even toes and soles are nice. Shit - it makes them feel better about themselves.
I can say this though - from a chick's side - COMPLIMENT!! Most women eat that shit up - but don't be creepy about it. Say it in passing.
I have yelled out car windows in parking lots, complimeted in a line at the store and other various public places.
Think of it as one girl - one step closer to understanding that some men actually prefer her feet to her tits and ass!
ps - I would RATHER a guy express his thoughts then sit and stare awkwardly at me Posted by MC Nolan (Member # 20527) on :
Thanks MD your words are most enlightening. I can imagine with all the demands on being "beautiful" these days women appreciate a compliment. It's so difficult to do this without appearing dishonest in a way. MD I'll have to say that you are not like all the rest and I'm glad! :-)
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
I rarely ever compliment a woman on something physical when I first meet her. I'm more apt to tease her than anything else. Once we've gotten physical or I know she's more attracted to me than I am to her, then i'll compliment her on her beauty. Otherwise the only compliments i'd give her are on how she meets my standards. My attitude is more, beauty is a prerequisite, now lets talk to her to see whats she's really about. A woman can't help her genes, but everything else is based on her character and worth admiring...in strict moderation.
Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
i do make compliments... more in the past then present. however.. one thing i've learned.. GQ points it well..... be cool.. be conversational... be confident but not cocky... and slip it in smoothly. those compliments tend to work very well.
if you're starting out with a compliment, tie it more to humor. example....."the price gals pay for beauty is ridiculous... why isn't your man giving you a footmassage" make sure you're smiling and not staring at her feet, but into her eyes (in a non-creepy way)... and sorta chuckle. (this has worked for me when a gal was massaging her own feet after wearing heels)..
her reply... 'you'd think i'd learn by now'. two which i laughed and said.... well, thanks for making my visual scenery so pretty, just hope next time it doesn't hurt so bad and i can pass the compliment while you're wearing your heels so it's more appropriate.... she replied.. you're original, i like that. smiled and i moved on.
ok, not the best example.. but humor really helps break the ice.
however.. not all women are that open. so... pick and choose wisely. and well done, can be an opener to great friendships. (the one pic i posted a while back.. that is how my friendship took off... a compliment on her toes)
RPM
Posted by Cuddle_Kittens (Member # 26273) on :
As a woman, I love getting compliments - but how I react to a compliment depends on a lot of things.
If I'm just out and about and someone stops me to compliment whatever it is, I thank them and carry on ...I mean, it's great to get a compliment and it really makes my day, but I figure that's the most of it - they just wanted to tell me they noticed something about me. And to me, a compliment on my feet is no different than a compliment on any other part of my body - and honestly one of the most least threatening body parts someone could mention they noticed!
If I'm out at a bar/nightclub or similar situation, and a guy approaches me, I do one of three things - if I think he would be someone worth talking to, then I'll say thanks and engage in conversation 'flirtingly' (is that a word?)... If he's not my type, I say thanks and turn away (hoping he gets the idea and goes away). Or, if he's a total jerk about it, I'll give him my 'look' and roll my eyes and simply walk away.
Now, if I'm behind a bar serving drinks, any compliment from any guy is going to be welcomed with some flirting on my part...unless the guy is a total jerk - in that case I'll make someone else wait on him for the rest of the night!
So personally, as a woman, I say compliment away - but be polite and as non-creepy as possible. Try to say it without a sexual overtone too. If you say 'nice feet' to someone while rubbing your crotch or making rude gestures - youre not going to be taken seriously. Posted by Foot Lover Of London (Member # 2420) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cuddle_Kittens: If you say 'nice feet' to someone while rubbing your crotch or making rude gestures - youre not going to be taken seriously.
All that is required is a little respect
Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
Cuddles, well said. and nice avatar too
RPM
Posted by Mommie Dearest (Member # 18340) on :
quote:Originally posted by MC Nolan: Thanks MD your words are most enlightening. I can imagine with all the demands on being "beautiful" these days women appreciate a compliment.
Thanks back at you.
I agree with how everyone here looks at their approach. Honestly it all boils down ultimately to the persons involved, timing and setting you are in.
I am sticking with the honest approach from guys on expressing themselves. Why hide what you love?
Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
I've only complimented a total stranger once. I was in an office supply store, and the girl behind the counter had her shoes off. I started off saying, "Uncomfortable shoes?" in a joking way. She said that she prefered to have them off. Feeling brave, I then said, "You look cute, barefooted!" She smiled and said, "Thank you, sweetie!" I suppose it could've turned out bad, but it didn't. Oh, and thanks for adding your thoughts on this issue, ladies!
Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
That's cool, douglezerts! This forum has made me comfortable enough that I know if an opportunity presents itself, I can see myself complimenting a stranger on her feet if the situation may see fit.
Posted by Fate111 (Member # 2627) on :
quote:Originally posted by GQguy: I rarely ever compliment a woman on something physical when I first meet her. I'm more apt to tease her than anything else. Once we've gotten physical or I know she's more attracted to me than I am to her, then i'll compliment her on her beauty. Otherwise the only compliments i'd give her are on how she meets my standards. My attitude is more, beauty is a prerequisite, now lets talk to her to see whats she's really about. A woman can't help her genes, but everything else is based on her character and worth admiring...in strict moderation.
Again, GQ hits the nail on the head, IMO.
It's important, from a guy's perspective, to put yourself in a position of being a good looking woman. Good looking women get guys wanting to kiss up to them all the time and, let's face it guys, most of us think that the way to start a conversation with a woman is by giving them a compliment on their physical appearance so that we come off looking like a "nice guy".
As guys, I'm sure most of us don't get bombarded with compliments about our physical appearance from women we don't know. I'm sure that if any guys have, they probably appreciated it because it happens so rarely. However, what would happen if you began getting compliments from women you don't know about your physical appearance all the time? I think you'll all agree that it would get old after awhile and that you would, eventually, begin filtering them all out because you'd get so used to it. Essentially, that is what a good looking woman does. She is so used to getting compliments from guys she doesn't know that it becomes rather boring and, in some cases, creepy, depending on the delivery of said compliment. Let's face it, you don't know her and she doesn't know you. To have someone compliment her on her physical becauty is something she's not going to put much stake in because she has heard it so many times in one way, shape or form.
Guys today, when it comes to wanting a girlfriend, make women prequalify them instead of the other way around. Beauty is quite commonplace and can be seen all around us. As GQ said, beauty is in the genes and, in most cases, it's a given because it can be seen. However, guys should prequalify women by what women are about on the inside and make the determination whether or not a woman is dating material by that and not by just physical appearance alone. Compliments are really only effective if they're not given that often by you as an individual to a woman and if you already know a woman to some degree.
Posted by MC Nolan (Member # 20527) on :
Pedactor your quote is awesome.
Posted by Mighty Mike (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mommie Dearest: I can say this though - from a chick's side - COMPLIMENT!! Most women eat that shit up - but don't be creepy about it. Say it in passing.
yes they "eat it up" for all the reasons that don't benefit the guy, they just love the attention
no offense but I've learned the hard way that women don't give good advice on how to "win over" other women
you will never hear a woman say "I like guys that show me ZERO respect" yet many women are with guys just like that
compliments will not make a girl sexually interested in you, they only work if the interest is already there and in that case you still can't overdo them or else she will start to think she is better than you
no chick does anything with a guy that she feels is beneath her
Posted by Mommie Dearest (Member # 18340) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mighty Mike:
quote:Originally posted by Mommie Dearest:
I can say this though - from a chick's side - COMPLIMENT!! Most women eat that shit up - but don't be creepy about it. Say it in passing.
yes they "eat it up" for all the reasons that don't benefit the guy, they just love the attention
True! - yet what is wrong with still giving a compliment?
no offense ( none taken )but I've learned the hard way that women don't give good advice on how to "win over" other women
correction - SOME WOMEN DONT GIVE GOOD ADVICE! - that doesnt mean all of us suck at it!
you will never hear a woman say "I like guys that show me ZERO respect" yet many women are with guys just like that
How is respectfully giving a compliment on feet a sign of ZERO respect? *girl scratches head*
compliments will not make a girl sexually interested in you, they only work if the interest is already there and in that case you still can't overdo them or else she will start to think she is better than you
So - complimenting is ALL about getting her in the sack then? (that sucks)
no chick does anything with a guy that she feels is beneath her
Nor would a guy do anything with a guy HE felt was below HIM ...
Posted by DeadGoon (Member # 24278) on :
Jesus hell. I'm so happy I'm a loner. Trying to get a woman seems like more work than it's worth.
Posted by Mighty Mike (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mommie Dearest:
quote:Originally posted by Mighty Mike:
quote:Originally posted by Mommie Dearest:
I can say this though - from a chick's side - COMPLIMENT!! Most women eat that shit up - but don't be creepy about it. Say it in passing.
yes they "eat it up" for all the reasons that don't benefit the guy, they just love the attention
True! - yet what is wrong with still giving a compliment?
no offense ( none taken )but I've learned the hard way that women don't give good advice on how to "win over" other women
correction - SOME WOMEN DONT GIVE GOOD ADVICE! - that doesnt mean all of us suck at it!
you will never hear a woman say "I like guys that show me ZERO respect" yet many women are with guys just like that
How is respectfully giving a compliment on feet a sign of ZERO respect? *girl scratches head*
compliments will not make a girl sexually interested in you, they only work if the interest is already there and in that case you still can't overdo them or else she will start to think she is better than you
So - complimenting is ALL about getting her in the sack then? (that sucks)
no chick does anything with a guy that she feels is beneath her
Nor would a guy do anything with a guy HE felt was below HIM ...
why boost a girl's ego if it does nothing in return for the guy, if not hurt his chances of getting with her?
I've found that most women do suck at giving advice for getting girls, like I said you will never hear a girl tell a guy friend to "tease her about the way she talks,dresses, or acts" yet many of the most successful guys do this
it's like matthew broderick said in ferris bueller's day off, "nobody respects a person that kisses their ass, it just doesn't work that way"
I never said complimenting a girl's feet is a sign of giving no respect, you misunderstood what i wrote. What I mean is more women or more likely to go to bed with a guy that teases their feet in a playful way than a guy that tells her she has the best feet in the world. Truly great looking women have heard it all, compliments will not make them like you more. I know it doesn't make sense but since when do women make sense?
and yeah complimenting or anything a guy does around a pretty girl is all about getting a girl in the sack, did you really think he cares about what she does for fun, her thoughts on the world or any of that boring stuff?
complimenting a girl can make the girl believe that the guy is beneath her, teasing her in a playful way takes her off her pedestal and can build attraction
Posted by Mighty Mike (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by DeadGoon: Trying to get a woman seems like more work than it's worth.
I'm convinced that it is
never ever work to win over one particular girl, there are far too many in the world
if a girl doesn't like me right off the bat I forget about her
Posted by DeadGoon (Member # 24278) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mighty Mike:
quote:Originally posted by DeadGoon: Trying to get a woman seems like more work than it's worth.
I'm convinced that it is
never ever work to win over one particular girl, there are far too many in the world
if a girl doesn't like me right off the bat I forget about her
Well yeah that's simply I how I feel. I think the difference between me and people like GQguy is to what degree we like women.
Don't get me wrong, I like them in my own way, but not to the extent I have to play games and act like someone I'm not just to get them.
If I REALLY want something, have a STRONG desire for it, I usually work out a way to persue it, so in that way, if I liked women enough, I'd probably play the same games as guys with the "conquering women" mentality.
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
quote:Originally posted by DeadGoon:
quote:Originally posted by Mighty Mike:
quote:Originally posted by DeadGoon: Trying to get a woman seems like more work than it's worth.
I'm convinced that it is
never ever work to win over one particular girl, there are far too many in the world
if a girl doesn't like me right off the bat I forget about her
Well yeah that's simply I how I feel. I think the difference between me and people like GQguy is to what degree we like women.
Don't get me wrong, I like them in my own way, but not to the extent I have to play games and act like someone I'm not just to get them.
If I REALLY want something, have a STRONG desire for it, I usually work out a way to persue it, so in that way, if I liked women enough, I'd probably play the same games as guys with the "conquering women" mentality.
True..I LOVE women. Everything about them. And true...I hand out compliments to women like candy on halloween if i'm not attracted to them and we're friends. Hell..I give em to guys and girls! If I am attracted to a woman however my approach changes..but it's slightly subconcious. It is a game. But isn't everything a game? Doesn't football prepare you for war? Childhood "house" games prepares you for your gender roles as adults? Everyone wants someone that "gets" them right? I wasn't more impressed than when my commander knew exactly how I felt going from college to the enlisted side. He instantly won my respect. Same thing goes with women. If she's beautiful she gets alot of crap. Mean guys, mean girls, guys that are nice just because she's hot, having to prove that she's more than just a hot body and pretty face at work and school blah blah blah. They're all fake. So she wants a guy that can see past her beauty and really accept her for her personality. Crazy huh? Thats why the jerks end up with the hotties because they treat her like a real person. She stays with him through all the crap because...she feels she has very few optins when it comes to guys she can trust. Back to the compliment and attraction. Compliments are'nt too bad...but you don't want to fall into the fake category. You want to be real so chat with her, and don't assume that she's the girl of your dreams because she's NOT! She's just Jenn, Ashley or whatever from middleclass whatever. Complimenting her on her body puts you into that fake group. Read her mind and she'll love you. I said this to a girl the other night "thats a nice look, it classy yet it has a sophisticated sex appeal" "I can tell you have more class than many of the women you associate with". After that she went off blah blah about how she sees herself and the world and more blah blah blah. See, we made a connection off of the well placed compliment. And of course I got her number and a kiss at the end of the evening. A "pretty feet" would leave me nowhere. Perhaps a "thanks". If thats all one wants from thier object of desire that works. I know alot of guys use the giving of compliments as a means to mainstream thier fetish. Cheers to you. I assure you though building attraction will make things run uch smoother
Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
I would also advise that you not dwell on her feet. Don't say to her, "You have beautiful feet," while staring down at them! She'll definitely look on you like you're a creep! Make it a light comment. Say to her, "You have nice feet." Smile, and wait for her response. Then turn your head away. Also, gague the situation, like someone else said. If she's got nail polish, compliment her on it. If she's barefooted, make a little comment on that. ("Uncomfortable shoes?") Or perhaps she, and a girlfriend, are talking about their feet together, then you can try to join in on their conversation.
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
quote:Originally posted by pedactor: i dont fuck w/ feet compliments (or body compliments) unless i know her well enough or unless she starts talking about it FIRST, but like gq guy, i try to compliment on style... this girl's number i had gotten a few weeks ago i had started complimenting on her necklace...she liked the compliment very much, but i must ask u mr. gq or anyone else who knows, what if shes like " yea ive been getting compliments all note on that" does it mean its not original enough??
Yeah basically. It's easy to look and say nice earings if they really are nice ;o) But also infer about what that says about her. That shows way more thought. Assume, and she'll correct you or agree. Either way you've made it past the 99% of the other guys that said "nice ass, feet, boobs". If her necklace is like the Jackie Kennedy type....say "you have an old fashioned cool about you" in adition to the compliment. Or a joke could be "that necklace reminds of the chain that Mr' T wears. Please don't beat me up" said with a joking face. Usually this gets me introduced to all of her friends as the guy thats pretty funny...either way it's fun and it gives you the chance to meet these women. Basically you want them talking about themselves. That way you get to see if she is more than just a pretty girl. You seem like you know what going on and you sound succesfull. Great job on the number. Do what works ;o)
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comfortable with you. If you come off as not needy by not comlimenting her on everything she does, tossing in "you've got style...I dig your shoes"" I bet you're the type that has a billion shoes in the closet at home" or "those shoes look painful, but they look nice though" will be very well recieved. Even a "are those yor tall girl shoes" said in a playful way to a shorter woman would work. See how the instances mentioned above allow her to respond with more than just "thanks". ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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