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Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
 
A thought just occured to me: How would radical feminists look upon a man's attraction to women's feet?
Of course, the very fact that we look upon feet as a sexual object is enough to PO them. But then again, they might like the idea of us "grovling at their feet."
What are your all's thoughts on this?
 

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Posted by logo29a (Member # 9556) on :
 
Honestly, I could care less about what some emotionaly charged, irrational twit thinks about my attractions. It's not my problem, it's theirs.
 

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Posted by wiggler (Member # 2240) on :
 
My mom is a radical feminist, or rather used to be. She's mellowed out in her old age, but for most of my life, I kept hearing lectures about how society was exploiting and objectifying women.

Women like her are incapable of distinguishing sex from sexual exploitation. In the radical feminist vocabulary, a woman who has sex is a woman who is being 'treated as a sex object.' Feminists who grew up in the 70s at the advent of the sexual revolution made the incorrect assumption that women were not sexual themselves and were only doing it to satisfy men.

As for feet, they probably find it less threatening. My mom doesn't know about my fetish, or at least, has never openly called me on it. When I told her I was doing yoga, I mentioned that there were lots of hot women there (barefoot) and she shook her head and muttered something about male sexism.

It is politically incorrect (by radical feminist standards) to think of a woman as beautiful, sexy, or desirable, so why should they think rationally about foot fetishists?
 

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Posted by Craigy boy (Member # 3340) on :
 
A radical feminist would find any mans attraction to anything a threat.
 

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Posted by logo29a (Member # 9556) on :
 
Insecurity is a natural result of irrationality.

Feminists complain about the objectifying of women as if it's necissarily a bad thing. What they really mean is lets be "subjective" about the matter. Let my "feelings" of something I don't understand influence your behavior. Very few people have similar "subjective" views on such matters. The modern human should not allow his/her emotions to control their actions because this is a primitive response and we no longer have the tools for accurate emotional responses (acute sight, hearing, etc.). Instead we developed something much more powerful: reason and that means being objective.

We should let our actions control our emotions. The purpose of all my actions is the pursuit of joy. I do not let my primitive emotional response to something I don't understand limit my pursuit. I find joy in the pursuit of the female and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that so long as I don't use force as a means of achieving that joy.

[ January 13, 2006, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: logo29a ]
 

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Posted by wiggler (Member # 2240) on :
 
Good point logo.

Feminists and other political correctness pushers confuse facts with interpretation. When a feminist thinks about a porno, they say it treats women as sex objects. "A woman has sex with a man in a porno" is a FACT. "A woman is turned into a sex object by porn" is an INTERPRETATION.

Feminists and liberals in general are also under the mistaken impression that they have the right to never be offended. The truth is, if we truely live in a marketplace of ideas and have the freedom of speech we like to brag about, then no one has the right to stay unoffended.

The bright side, I've noticed about RADICAL feminism is that it's on the decline. Feminism is a great thing, but it's carried too far by extremists who are nothing more than man-hating dykes. But that is primarily a product of the 70s and the sexual revolution. Radical feminists that fall under the age of 40 today are few and far between. My mom says "Women don't like porn, women don't want sex, women don't like men." I've never found any woman in my age group (I'm 26) that said the same thing. Women today are much more accepting of sexuality as a shared experienced and, provided it's consensual and satisfying, something that they are free to indulge in.

My $0.02
 

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Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
 
I'd love to turn that built up stress of theirs into sexual foot energy, personally. I see most of feminism as more a socially cultivated psychological issue that can be circumvented with the right mechanisms (which I've been studying in-depth for several years).

The good thing is that sexual arousal can be triggered in uniquely unapparent ways by appealing to instincts which people generally have no control over (often referred to as the "elusive obvious" in some esoteric dating circles). Underlying sexual desires cannot be repressed and neither can sleep, hunger, and other basic human needs made to fulfill some comfort equilibrium (sexual attractions being in that subset).

My take is that most feminist women do not deviate significantly on a basic human level with respect to sexual attraction triggers. Sometimes it is just a finesse of fusing their social distortions into a situation that benefits both of you (as unapparent as it may be).

It will work, so long as the feminist has sexual inclinations and as long as you are able to locate and work off of those existing triggers. These type of women can be the most rewarding in my opinion, since there usually has been so much anxiety built up from their years of repressing themselves, often to suit an unoriginal set of programmed social values.

The positive note in those situations is the differential in emotional/comfort zone equilibrium that you can cause by taking them from uptight to totally cool and relaxed. Many of those women might be fond of how that calmed-down state of mind used to feel when they were younger (ie. less uptight and relaxed). That, conceptually, is one top level strategy to use to level your courting field with feminists.

There can be enormous potential in using an "emotional highs & lows" strategy to your favor. The massive difference in change in emotional state is very powerful in making people do dramatically different things than their norm (be it positive or negative, usually correspondinlgy to the direction of the emotional change).

Look at the behavioural state of people who lost everything in Katrina and look at the behavioural state of a person who lived through a car accident that should've definitely killed them. Often, the larger the difference in emotional state, the more potential energy in the outcome. Use it to everyone's advantage when you can! This can be done by making a feminist feel truly comfortable with her sexual inclinations again. Start to de-program her force fed ethics with new original perspective on any subject matter that will start to build a common bond between the two of you.

[ January 13, 2006, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
 

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Posted by Martial Law (Member # 2564) on :
 

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Originally posted by logo29a:
Honestly, I could care less about what some emotionaly charged, irrational twit thinks about my attractions. It's not my problem, it's theirs.

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Originally posted by logo29a:
It's not my problem, it's theirs.

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Originally posted by wiggler:
Feminists and other political correctness pushers confuse facts with interpretation.

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the bible, which i think MOST americans at least base a lot of their religious beliefs, has proved to be a vehicle (the new testament) of one of the most unfair schemes against women in history.

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What makes you only mention the New Testament guitardrew? Go read the Old Testament too! For better or worse, women weren't thought very highly of in those writings either. But then, for that matter, Gentiles, male or female, weren't spoken very nicely of at all, and us Gentiles make up a HUGE percentage of the population of the world! So really, the Bible discriminates equally!

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there are many different types of feminists. Liberal feminists are different from lesbian separatist feminists, and both are different from Marxist feminists. There is no one feminism that has one particular view on some subject.

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Very good point bbbbbbbbbbguy. I know I for one am guilty of holding ALL feminists in contempt in the past, but I've learned over the years that not all feminists hate hate men and suffer severe cases of penis-envy. However, I think what needs to be done to correct this on a larger scale would be some of these more lenient and realistic feminist groups to disassociate themselves from the "feminist" tag all together. We tend to think in language, so for most of us, to hear the title "feminist", a red flag goes up automatically. Most folks wouldn't take the time to hear different idealogies out, so naturally the prejudgement continues.

Christians tend to face similar problems, and I should know since I'm one myself. People get so wrapped up in hearing the Pat Robertson's, Jack Van Impe's, and Oral Roberts' of the world that they'll tend to think that all Christians are band-wagon riding self-appointed moral watchdogs that love "Dubya", but nothing is further from the truth.

Oh well...that's a whole other can of worms.

As for the subject at hand, I don't care either way what some member of N.O.W. or whatever thinks about my desires. If they're self-hating and filled with anger to begin with, there's no pleasing them anyway.
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
wow..this sparked off some really intelligent debate. I'm impressed
 

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Posted by scrunchlover (Member # 21542) on :
 

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Originally posted by logo29a:
Honestly, I could care less about what some emotionaly charged, irrational twit thinks about my attractions. It's not my problem, it's theirs.

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Originally posted by likestinkyfeet:
To those who said the Bible discriminates against women, you couldnt be more wrong. I'm not going to get on any soapbox but dont confuse a cultural attitude recorded in the Bible with the Bible condoning such things.

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Originally posted by Soopaman Lova:
Shit..I back in High School, I use to hang out with the "Tree People". They were the Anarchist/ Extreme Left kids that hung out around the biggest tree in the courtyard. Earning the name "Tree People". But the females that hung out there were either feminists or Riot Grrls. They were always barefooted. There were cute, contrary to popular belief. But their smarts intimidated any guy that tried to approach them. Well, the ones that were into guys. But I remember one girl while she was reading this Anarcha-feminist poem to us sitting at the tree... She let me give her a foot massage while she read to us. Her feet were surprisingly well kept and beautiful. Smooth and everything...you wouldn't think so for someone who spent so much time barefooted.

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Yeah, I was also part of an European anarchist movement for more than 15 years. I have met, had sex and worshipped some of the hottest women on this planet with the prettiest feet ...and almost all of them were radical feminists/Riot Girls and/or anarchists. My long-term gf is a radical feminist and those of you who have seen photos of her feet know that they look absolutely fantastic....she is also an amazing strong person, who just doesn`t take any shit from assholes (men or women!)...which is totally fine by me. Just like me she also does not always conform to the political views of radical feminists and very often questions their actions.

I know there is probably a lot of prejudices against feminists (and that many men are afraid of strong females with an attitude), but quite a lot of them are amazingly intelligent, open-minded women with great looking feet (also very open towards foot-fetishism)...and lots of them are also great in bed! I´m not talking about 70s/80s cliche-feminists with an anti-sex attitude, hairy legs and no make-up (no offense meant!) -- but the new movement that formed in the late 80s.

-Hal-

PS. I mean women like my model Zoe, who is a political feminist with a very open mind, pretty feet and is pro foot-fetish!
(Zoe Photo 1 / Zoe Photo 2)
 

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Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
 
Wow, nice to see my old topic still active!
 

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Posted by DeadGoon (Member # 24278) on :
 

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There is no one feminism that has one particular view on some subject.

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I've been aware of that now for quite some time. I remember readin ghtings about "sex positive" feminism vs the other types that are anti-porn etc and others that seem to deal with sex A LOT.
Eventually it started to seem to me that feminists couldn't seem to agree on anything when it comes to female sexuality.

So it made me wonder if female sexuality is almost as illusive to women themselves as it is to us guys?

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Originally posted by Michael P:
i've never seen a good looking feminist so i can't say i care what they think

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Originally posted by Michael P:
i've never seen a good looking feminist so i can't say i care what they think

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I remember George Carlen once saying that it's ironic that most of the women advocating abortion rights are the ones you wouldn't want to fuck anyways.

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Originally posted by Craigy boy:
A radical feminist would find any mans attraction to anything a threat.

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